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0:00Hello. How are you? I'm good, how are you?0:02Good, thank you. So, did you do any type of preparation to play such a polarizing character?0:07You know, you're charming on the one side and then sometimes psychotic stalkery on the other side.0:12Did you do any preparation for that?0:14Mmm, I've always felt like I needed more, to be honest.0:17But yeah, I mean, I think what I...0:19Initially, I really didn't want to make him human at all, and I was prepared to...0:24to make a much more chilling portrait, I thought.0:29And then I think I realized maybe what's more chilling is that he's so human, seemingly, at some points.0:36That he doesn't see where he's wrong.0:37And at some points, if you're not careful, you might not either.0:42But yeah, I don't know.0:43I mean, I'm really interested to see what it is that people think about that particular element of it.0:47Because he's...0:49Yeah, it's just...0:51He's a complicated guy.0:53Or rather, not even treating him like he's real for a moment.0:56It's a complicated role.0:57It's a complicated story.0:59It's a complicated project to exist at this time.1:03You know I think when we trying to understand the dimensions of toxic masculinity and then we have this guy who embodies it and then we like to watch him1:15What does that mean? I don't know.1:17Because I think exactly like what you're saying, I think there's another side to him that we're...1:21I'm listening to the audiobook right now, so I can...1:23You're listening to the audiobook? That feels like it would even be more...1:27I think it's adding another level.1:29Who's the voice? Just some guy?1:30I don't know, but I'm picturing you now since I know you're the guy.1:33You know what's kind of disturbing that I had not even thought of until you said that?1:37Is that when people read this book, they will now picture me.1:39They will.1:40The book is so much more chilling than the show, I think, too.1:44But there is a side to him, too, that you can see.1:47Obviously, he went to the extreme, but he was well-intended.1:50At least, I'm not that far in, but you can kind of see that his intentions aren't bad.1:55No, no, no.1:55I mean, his intentions are pure, but beyond that, they're not.2:00I mean, like the seeds somewhere in there, however the show is rotten,2:03and there's some pure essence there.2:06But then beyond that, he's completely misguided,2:09like so utterly misguided and inhumane in the way that he proceeds from that pure essence2:15that it almost may as well not be there.2:17Totally.